(Feb-28-2011, 03:47 PM (UTC))Nuytsia Wrote: Hmm I found this interesting.......
A few pages into Chapter 1, Gankis and Kennit are talking about the legends of the Others and talking about Bards visiting the Others 'in ancient times' and gaining magical voices...
They mention the story of "Kaven Ravenlock who visited the Others for half a hundred years and returned as if but a day had passed for him, but with hair the colour of gold and eyes like red coals and true songs that told of the future in twisted rhymes"

Is is just me or does this remind you of the White Prophets? Probably just a coincidence.......

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"colour of gold" and "twisted rhyme" sounds Fool-like to me, and it bears greater significance when coupled with the legend that Fool came from the vicinity of Others' Island on the boat covered by shark-skin, I think it was? I have to go back and refind that passage but I have another comment re about that in the Fool thread. He may not have had "eyes like red coals" but he certainly didn't have human-like eyes either, and both Elderlings and pecksies have various eye colourations. So it, seemed, did WPs.

It also makes me think of the Rooster Crown, filled with bards who give voice, song and insight to the wearer....even someone as 'untalented' as Fitz, or so the minstrels themselves thought! I know I spoke about all this minstrel stuff somewhere else (sorry! ) but it also makes me think of Selden, how he suddenly became capable of speaking of things beyond what he knew, also sometimes in a very sing-song style of speech, imbued by the magic and memories that came with his contact with Tintaglia/the formation of becoming an Elderling.

For me, they are all related. It's not just a White Prophet thing.

As for the timing, re fifty years passing as if for a day, it is the same thing Fitz says of those lovers who use the pillars to escape parents etc as well as a couple of other things, including the time he lost in the Aslevjal pillar. It seems to me that these bards arrived and departed from Others' Island via the pillars in the same fashion...sometimes losing time and sometimes gaining it.

(Mar-01-2011, 04:51 AM (UTC))Nuytsia Wrote: and the long period of time - when it says 'half a hundred years and returned as if but a day had passed for him' I just thought well he hadn't aged (like a WP)

(Mar-01-2011, 04:51 AM (UTC))Nuytsia Wrote: Farseer which book tells of the Fool coming from the vicinity of Others Island?
(*hopes it's one I have!*)

wikipedia on shark attacks Wrote:More than any documented attack, Peter Benchley's best selling novel Jaws and the subsequent 1975 film adaptation directed by Steven Spielberg provided the great white shark with the image of a "man eater" in the public mind.[39] While great white sharks have killed humans, they typically do not target them: for example, in the Mediterranean Sea there have been 31 confirmed attacks against humans in the last two centuries, most non-fatal. Many incidents seem to be "test-bites". Great white sharks also test-bite buoys, flotsam, and other unfamiliar objects, and might grab a human or a surfboard to identify it.

Other incidents seem to be cases of mistaken identity, in which a shark ambushes a bather or surfer from below, believing the silhouette is from a seal. Many attacks occur in waters with low visibility, or other situations which impair the shark's senses. The species appears to not like the taste of humans, or at least finds the taste unfamiliar. Further research shows that they can tell in one bite whether or not the object is worth attacking. Humans, for the most part, are too bony for their liking. They much prefer a fat, protein-rich seal.

(Mar-01-2011, 11:13 PM (UTC))Farseer Wrote: It's in AA, right at the beginning of Chapter Nine, Fat Suffices, though there may be others.

Quote:As of 2009, the ISAF recorded a total of 2,251 attacks worldwide since 1580, with 464 attacks being fatal. (ISAF = International Shark Attack File)