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Is there RPG for the Realm of Elderlings? - KekPafrany - May-15-2012

It is a question that has been nagging me for some time, I am usually player (and sometimes storyteller) in roleplay games, and I thought it would be alluring to play it as an RPG.

I just ask if there is already some forum, topic or something for this? I couldn't find similar.


RE: Is there RPG for the Realm of Elderlings? - 'thul - May-15-2012

There is not, for while it undeniably would be fun to roleplay in this excellent world, it would violate certain rights...

here's a quote from her website:
robin hobb Wrote:Question:
Can I make a Role-playing game based on your world or books? It’s only just for fun, not profit, for this role-playing group on the Internet. Or, Can I make a little film from your books? It’s only for a contest, or just to share with my friends or only to put on my website. I don’t plan to make any money from it. Or, may I self-publish a little graphic novel I made from a scene in your book? I’ll make sure to say that I don’t own any of the rights.

Answer:

Rights are a rather tricky thing for a writer. You simply want to set up an RP or make a little movie and have some fun. You are not expecting to market a game or to profit from a movie.


It probably seems like it would be fun and simple if I simply said, “Sure, go ahead.”



But if the writer gives official permission, it can have unintended consequences in the future. If a game developer approaches the writer and wants to purchase the rights to make a game based on the books, the writer has to say, “I already gave someone else permission to do an RP of that.” Then the game developer may simply end the negotiation.



Or if the game developer purchases the rights and markets the game, the game developer may later take issue with someone else doing for free what he has paid for. The game developer may see it as a copyright infringement on the rights he has purchased. Or the person who has made the RP may look at the game developer and say, “You took a lot of the ideas that I first came up with for my RP and used them in your game that you sold for money. That’s not fair!”



Often, when an author sells a publisher the right to publish a book, the contract will specify that the publisher can sell ‘sub rights’ as in movie rights or merchandise rights or gaming rights. If the publisher does sell those rights, then the author and the publisher share in the income from those rights. The publisher might not be happy to discover that the author had already given someone those rights for free.



This is why all rights permissions have to go through my agent. The agent keeps track of what rights have been purchased and by whom. If a writer gives someone permission to make a comic or an audio book version and at the same time the agent is negotiating a sale of those rights, things can get very messy for everyone, with possible law suits.



This is a long answer to what was probably seen as a fairly simple question. But often a writer is seen as stingy or selfish if he or she simply says, “No, you can’t do that, even if you are not planning on making money from it.”



RE: Is there RPG for the Realm of Elderlings? - KekPafrany - May-15-2012

(May-15-2012, 02:10 PM (UTC))thul Wrote: There is not, for while it undeniably would be fun to roleplay in this excellent world, it would violate certain rights...

Knight Well, I was thinking in something smaller scale: with my own pen and paper rpg party using a simple generic gamesystem without publishing anything. I assume that wouldn't be more dangerous to copyrights as the fanart pictures on the deviantart.






RE: Is there RPG for the Realm of Elderlings? - 'thul - May-15-2012

well, robin hobb has expressed that she likes fan art, but she does not like anyone creating a roleplay. However, so long as it stays as merely a pen and paper RP in your group alone, then we'd guess it would be ok. might be best to tweak some minor stuff to make it unique, though...


RE: Is there RPG for the Realm of Elderlings? - KekPafrany - May-16-2012

(May-15-2012, 03:17 PM (UTC))thul Wrote: well, robin hobb has expressed that she likes fan art, but she does not like anyone creating a roleplay. However, so long as it stays as merely a pen and paper RP in your group alone, then we'd guess it would be ok. might be best to tweak some minor stuff to make it unique, though..

Thanks.