Apr-07-2010, 04:21 PM (UTC)
(This post was last modified: Apr-07-2010, 04:24 PM (UTC) by Sai Jackal.)
to what you're saying Maulkin, I'll agree that Verity was missing a lot of himself. But Verity knew what he had to do, and held on to that, right until his final moments. Verity was still flickering in and out of being himself, and in comparison he had dumped almost everything into the dragon at that point. But he was still Verity. He still loved Kettricken, but it was again, "flickering" everything he was at that point, was in and out, up and down, he's there he's not, it's all about the dragon it isn't all about the dragon. But with Fitz supposedly this one thing just disappeared and he never remembered it.
I always remember when Verity would tell Fitz that he made him feel like himself again. That Fitzs constant badgering awoke something in Verity that Verity thought long dead. But you cannot reawaken a Forged one with memories.
My complaint in terms of the fitz being somewhat forged, is that Fitz never acted anything like that. He still tried to love, he pursued Jenna, and even wanted a family. Jennas charm having the unmanning effect on him and such. He still sat and laughed and loved life with the Fool, he acted exactly like Fitz from Farseer trilogy did, aside from the fact that he was now older, and more reserved. But that was natural.
Then it turns out, apparently his entire life has been altered, he hasn't been fully experiencing things, he hasn't been "whole" since that moment when he dumped some feeling into Girl on a dragon. And the extreme of that is what sets me off. I honestly felt like Fitz has been insulted when the fool suggested he hadn't been "whole" It felt like a seriously lacking excuse for why he and Molly never ended all happily ever after. When Robin herself has said based on Farseer she never planned for them to end up together. So what I'm saying, is I see the seams, and I despise it when I see the seams in a story. She manufactured an excuse for him, and she can do that, Fitz is hers, but it's simply lacking. (in my opinion)
Nuytsia, I'd never read that interview. And it definitely clears some stuff up for me. I'm actually not someone who's suggesting that Fitz needs to change his sexuality and run off with the fool. I'm not sure where I stand on him and the fool being romantic. Robins right when she says it would be very out of character for Fitz to do such a thing. But at the same time, his feelings for the fool do transcend simple friendship, or love the way one man loves another, as Fitz said once himself.
But whatever there is between the Fool and Fitz, that has nothing to do with my disappointment in Fitz and Molly. In my opinion, Fitz could never replace Burrich, but Burrich could replace Fitz. That's my problem with the happily ever after. Burrich.. 15 years she spent with him, this does not simply get shoved aside for someone you loved when you were a kid. And the rubbish about always holding a special spot in your heart for your first love. I'll to some degree agree with that. But there's a difference between fondly remembering something, or someone, and marrying them after your husband dies.
I agree that the Fool was the love coming in and out of Fitz life as well. And that, compared to the Molly ending, I would have preferred him and the fool had something instead of nothing. This also bugged me. The fool talking about Fitz never having cubs of his own.. Are we now saying that Fitz was not Burrichs cub? because Burrich was not Fitzs biological father? Or that Hap was not Fitz cub? I hardly think Fitz need have more children with molly, for him to really have "Cubs"
After reading that I certainly feel bad though. I've never hate mailed her, or mailed her at all. But the idea that this has negatively impacted her ever returning to the series, is quite disheartening. As long as she kills molly.. I'd totally want more farseer books, no matter how I feel about certain decisions, the only reason I personally criticize them so heavily is because of how much I enjoyed them..
I always remember when Verity would tell Fitz that he made him feel like himself again. That Fitzs constant badgering awoke something in Verity that Verity thought long dead. But you cannot reawaken a Forged one with memories.
My complaint in terms of the fitz being somewhat forged, is that Fitz never acted anything like that. He still tried to love, he pursued Jenna, and even wanted a family. Jennas charm having the unmanning effect on him and such. He still sat and laughed and loved life with the Fool, he acted exactly like Fitz from Farseer trilogy did, aside from the fact that he was now older, and more reserved. But that was natural.
Then it turns out, apparently his entire life has been altered, he hasn't been fully experiencing things, he hasn't been "whole" since that moment when he dumped some feeling into Girl on a dragon. And the extreme of that is what sets me off. I honestly felt like Fitz has been insulted when the fool suggested he hadn't been "whole" It felt like a seriously lacking excuse for why he and Molly never ended all happily ever after. When Robin herself has said based on Farseer she never planned for them to end up together. So what I'm saying, is I see the seams, and I despise it when I see the seams in a story. She manufactured an excuse for him, and she can do that, Fitz is hers, but it's simply lacking. (in my opinion)
Nuytsia, I'd never read that interview. And it definitely clears some stuff up for me. I'm actually not someone who's suggesting that Fitz needs to change his sexuality and run off with the fool. I'm not sure where I stand on him and the fool being romantic. Robins right when she says it would be very out of character for Fitz to do such a thing. But at the same time, his feelings for the fool do transcend simple friendship, or love the way one man loves another, as Fitz said once himself.
But whatever there is between the Fool and Fitz, that has nothing to do with my disappointment in Fitz and Molly. In my opinion, Fitz could never replace Burrich, but Burrich could replace Fitz. That's my problem with the happily ever after. Burrich.. 15 years she spent with him, this does not simply get shoved aside for someone you loved when you were a kid. And the rubbish about always holding a special spot in your heart for your first love. I'll to some degree agree with that. But there's a difference between fondly remembering something, or someone, and marrying them after your husband dies.
I agree that the Fool was the love coming in and out of Fitz life as well. And that, compared to the Molly ending, I would have preferred him and the fool had something instead of nothing. This also bugged me. The fool talking about Fitz never having cubs of his own.. Are we now saying that Fitz was not Burrichs cub? because Burrich was not Fitzs biological father? Or that Hap was not Fitz cub? I hardly think Fitz need have more children with molly, for him to really have "Cubs"
After reading that I certainly feel bad though. I've never hate mailed her, or mailed her at all. But the idea that this has negatively impacted her ever returning to the series, is quite disheartening. As long as she kills molly.. I'd totally want more farseer books, no matter how I feel about certain decisions, the only reason I personally criticize them so heavily is because of how much I enjoyed them..