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Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs
Offline Jizdin
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Mar-11-2015, 10:20 PM (UTC)
More ramblings Blushing probably nonsense but who knows...Undecided

I always felt that the way that Sedric drinks Relpda’s blood (he doesn’t know why he did at the time, or afterwards) was as if he was compelled to do it, that there were some other forces at work (he also seems mesmerised by the blood in a way that others are not). It reminded me of when Wintrow is drawn to go up the cliff path to the cave & to release She Who Remembers – he doesn’t understand why he’s doing it, just that he must. I always thought that it was his destiny to free She Who Remembers, just as it is his destiny (according to Amber-Fool) to raise and influence the future King of the Pirate Isles, Paragon Ludluck (who presumably will be an important figure/play an important role in the future). I always felt that it was Malta’s destiny to become an Elderling as well.

This got me thinking about the Elderlings that did not choose to become Elderlings (and their dragons did not choose to create Elderlings). For most of the new group of Elderlings, it was a conscious decision by them and their dragon. However, for 5 of them (Malta, Reyn, Selden, Thymara & Sedric), it was not a decision made by themselves or their dragons. It was an accident….or destiny. Out of the Elderlings, these 5 are also the main protagonists.

If I remember correctly, in the Liveship Traders, Tintaglia tells Reyn (while she is carrying him to find Malta) that he is changing into an Elderling due to being in close proximity to her for a long period of time. We know from the RWC that those who are already scaled/Rain Wilds Touched in some way, change more (their changes are accelerated). However, they do not become Elderlings (Greft is an example of this & even Leftrin complains that he is scaling more). Mercor tells Reyn in BoD that he and Selden could have been changed into Elderlings by breathing Tintaglia’s breath as she emerged from her cocoon. This may explain Reyn & Selden’s change into Elderlings, though I’m not entirely convinced, but it does not explain Malta’s change. Yes, she is in the chamber (Rooster chamber?) with Tintaglia while she is in her cocoon, and tries to help her to escape from it, and she does Skill-link with Tintaglia (mainly though dreams and initiated by the dragon), but she does not drink or get on her skin any of Tintaglia’s blood, and she does not breath in or get breathed on by Tintaglia. So why does she change? Tintaglia (I think) says that Malta’s crest is a reward for helping her to escape from her cocoon, but it’s not a reward from Tintaglia. Malta’s delicate blue scaling on her face (as described in CoD) is the work of Tintaglia presumably, but Malta’s red crest, red scaling on her hands & forearms (a describes in Liveship Traders) is not. It is unlikely that Malta’s golden hair is a change brought about/controlled by Tintaglia, as her colours are blue and silver. The red crest, red hands & arms & golden hair, to me are reminiscent of a rooster (very interesting considering the rooster chamber, rooster crown in the books).

Thymara’s changes are also very interesting. That Sintara is the one dragon that does not wish to make an Elderling (apart from Kalo with Greft), and that Thymara ends up growing wings by herself (not a change initiated by her dragon) also makes her, like Malta, very special. Yes, it could just be an accident – she gets blood splattered into her face while removing a snake from Sintara’s wing – but that seems unlikely in a world where destiny plays such a big part. Sintara says that it was because Thymara kept dreaming of flying, but didn’t the other Elderlings ever dream of anything? For long periods of time, Tintaglia was not controlling the changes of Selden, Reyn & Malta. She carried Reyn in her talons while she flew…did he never dream of flying afterwards? Why did he not develop wings?

So, how are these 5 important? Malta starts the rescue effort for Tintaglia by uncovering the door with gears after immersing herself in the memories of the buried Elderling city, and by doing so assists in restoring dragons to the world. She rescues the Satrap and negotiates a treaty between Jamailia, Bingtown and the Pirate Isles. She is the first Elderling to have offspring. She pours the Silver into Tintaglia’s mouth, thus saving the next generation of dragons. Reyn & Selden free Tintaglia. Reyn tries to protect the Elderling cities and artefacts from being destroyed or sold. Selden becomes a Singer and by his association with Chassim, saves her (she would have been destroyed by the dragons if he had not been with her), thus helping peace to be established between Chalced and other places. Thymara, through her memories from Amarinda, restores Silver to the well, which enables Tintaglia and her future offspring to be saved (& helps & strengthens the other dragons). Sedric saves Relpda from being killed by Jess and by killing Jess (or helping to kill him – I am not sure if he was alive or dead when Relda bit him in half), helped to protect the other dragons that Jess would have tried to kill as well. Through his bond with Relpda he sharpened her mind and helped her to fly.

Does any of this make them more important than the other Elderlings? Maybe or maybe not…I’m not sure….I just feel that all 5 were somehow destined to become Elderlings for a reason. Maybe their important time has already passed (the things that they have already done)…or maybe it is still to come. Magic


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Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Mervi - Feb-27-2013, 09:50 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Farseer - Mar-07-2013, 12:50 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Farseer - Mar-14-2013, 10:48 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by mmmmmmm - Mar-14-2013, 09:12 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Valarya - Mar-15-2013, 04:30 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Farseer - Mar-15-2013, 01:00 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Norma J. - Jul-30-2013, 08:37 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by joost - Mar-15-2013, 07:12 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by joost - Mar-15-2013, 11:32 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by joost - Mar-15-2013, 01:58 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by mmmmmmm - Mar-15-2013, 08:34 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Farseer - Mar-15-2013, 11:18 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Valarya - Mar-15-2013, 08:52 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by standingby - Mar-18-2013, 05:34 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Farseer - Mar-18-2013, 06:28 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by astagg - Mar-18-2013, 09:18 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Farseer - Mar-19-2013, 10:24 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by mmmmmmm - Mar-20-2013, 06:09 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Farseer - Mar-21-2013, 05:28 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by mmmmmmm - Mar-23-2013, 09:12 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Farseer - Mar-23-2013, 11:43 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Farseer - Mar-24-2013, 01:34 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by astagg - Mar-24-2013, 11:25 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Farseer - Mar-24-2013, 12:57 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Wolfang - Apr-06-2013, 04:44 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by theurgh - Apr-07-2013, 08:36 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by joost - Apr-10-2013, 10:33 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by theurgh - Apr-10-2013, 01:09 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Valarya - Apr-23-2013, 07:48 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by 'thul - May-02-2013, 01:36 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Wolfang - May-28-2013, 01:04 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by 'thul - May-29-2013, 05:53 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Jizdin - Mar-06-2015, 09:56 PM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by BrilliantFarseer - Mar-12-2015, 01:09 AM (UTC)
RE: Blood of Dragons discussion thread - SPOILERS, obvs - by Jizdin - Mar-11-2015, 10:20 PM (UTC)

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