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The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man
Offline Syrocko
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Oct-27-2010, 02:28 PM (UTC) (This post was last modified: Oct-28-2010, 03:24 AM (UTC) by Syrocko.)
I've done a fair bit of thinking about that last post. I've found the reply rather difficult to formulate, but here goes. The exact nature of the connection between Fitz and the Fool remains something of a mystery. They are not the reincarnations of Realder and his white prophet, because Realder's soul is still in his dragon. Is there perhaps always this strange dynamic between a white prophet and their catalyst? If so, it's worth noting that Wild Eye's White prophet expressed those feelings with a surprising amount of strictness and cruelty. The Fool tells Civil at one point that Fitz is far more important to him than even a lover could be because they are white prophet and catalyst, which suggests that that this relationship at least partly explains their bond. But how much and exactly how, we don't know. It's not very clear cut.

The Fool does seem to be trying to explain that his love transcends sex, that it is about more. And yet his attraction does seem to have a physical element. He never actually denies that he would like to bed with Fitz. He becomes excited by close contact with Fitz, and enjoys dressing him up nicely. When they part at the end of the Farseer trilogy, Fitz mentions being surprised that the Fool kisses him on the mouth. In this way it seems similar to how it can be in real life to be in love with someone. It seems to be much more profound and deep than the mere act of sex, and yet generally one desires sex and cannot honestly deny that it is important to them.

Yes there is some kind of rightness, some kind of cosmic force, some kind of meant-to-be-ness about Fitz and the Fool. No doubt the Fool feels this very acutely. But the fool has always been far more in tune with the energy of the universe, of the fates or whatever it is. His entire life until Fitz resurrects him and thus frees him, is about the almost completely selfless pursuit of what he senses is meant to be in the world. Fitz on the other hand, despite his crucial role in shaping the future, in the fates etc, does not properly sense or understand this role, or actively seek it like the fool. He always wanted different things for himself. Had he had the choice, he would have hidden away with Molly and Nighteyes long ago and raised a family rather than seeking to help Verity. Though he may have an inkling of the fates or whatever you'd call it, this tends to conflict with his heart. Fitz is human, and is driven by his human heart, petty as one might think it. The Fool is not human, is arguably superior to the human race, and is driven primarily not by his heart but by something higher, greater than himself. Whatever Fitz' soul might sense about his relationship with the Fool, his heart's desire is stronger and more important to him, and ultimately he is able to follow his human heart's desire.


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The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Apples - Sep-16-2009, 02:54 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Mervi - Sep-17-2009, 11:44 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by chriSchaeffer - Sep-17-2009, 05:38 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by joost - Sep-17-2009, 10:43 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Chrischa - Oct-11-2009, 09:24 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by n00854180t - Oct-19-2009, 09:06 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by legerdemain07 - Nov-08-2009, 07:57 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Liquid Ice - Feb-21-2010, 10:09 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by fleetzz - Mar-02-2010, 06:48 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by kollkolen - Mar-18-2010, 08:08 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Chrischa - Mar-20-2010, 11:40 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Sini - Mar-22-2010, 08:24 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Sai Jackal - Apr-05-2010, 04:37 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by maulkin - Apr-06-2010, 05:47 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Nuytsia - Apr-06-2010, 05:08 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Albertosaurus Rex - Apr-06-2010, 06:01 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Sai Jackal - Apr-07-2010, 04:21 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Nuytsia - Apr-09-2010, 04:01 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Chrischa - Apr-11-2010, 09:50 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Chrischa - Apr-11-2010, 11:05 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Nuytsia - Apr-13-2010, 08:48 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Sai Jackal - Apr-13-2010, 11:27 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Chrischa - Apr-16-2010, 12:01 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Nuytsia - Apr-18-2010, 02:30 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Farseer - Apr-22-2010, 02:34 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Farseer - Jul-15-2010, 03:01 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by maulkin - Jun-07-2010, 09:49 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Nuytsia - Jun-07-2010, 03:48 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Farseer - Jun-07-2010, 10:40 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Farseer - Jun-08-2010, 12:36 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Nuytsia - Jun-08-2010, 01:49 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Syrocko - Jun-28-2010, 06:58 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Witted Bastard - Jul-14-2010, 07:28 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Farseer - Jul-15-2010, 12:42 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Syrocko - Jul-15-2010, 06:02 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Witted Bastard - Aug-11-2010, 12:00 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Nuytsia - Jul-14-2010, 03:42 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Nuytsia - Jul-15-2010, 01:23 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by 'thul - Jul-15-2010, 03:24 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by NeverBeenWise - Jul-16-2010, 04:16 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Syrocko - Jul-16-2010, 02:30 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Mervi - Jul-16-2010, 01:12 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Nuytsia - Jul-16-2010, 05:09 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Syrocko - Jul-16-2010, 09:27 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Syrocko - Oct-27-2010, 02:28 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Nuytsia - Oct-27-2010, 03:04 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Farseer - Nov-07-2010, 02:47 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Syrocko - Oct-28-2010, 06:58 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Rendezvous - Oct-28-2010, 08:39 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Syrocko - Oct-28-2010, 12:26 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by erikh - Feb-14-2011, 02:38 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Farseer - Feb-14-2011, 04:09 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? - by Nightchade - Feb-17-2011, 12:02 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Nuytsia - Feb-21-2011, 12:51 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Oct-06-2011, 06:18 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by EverSnow - Oct-16-2011, 04:55 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Oct-06-2011, 07:31 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Nov-01-2011, 01:11 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Nov-01-2011, 11:42 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Valarya - Nov-02-2011, 02:24 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by KeyIsland - Feb-09-2012, 06:56 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Feb-09-2012, 07:43 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Feb-09-2012, 08:47 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Feb-09-2012, 08:50 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by fool-ish - Feb-09-2012, 10:49 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Feb-10-2012, 08:51 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Feb-10-2012, 11:22 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Feb-10-2012, 12:26 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Feb-10-2012, 01:21 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Feb-10-2012, 01:32 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Narya - Feb-21-2012, 02:24 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Feb-21-2012, 03:27 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Feb-21-2012, 09:01 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by FoolishGirl - Feb-21-2012, 02:19 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Valarya - Feb-22-2012, 06:18 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Feb-21-2012, 09:04 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by fool-ish - Feb-21-2012, 11:33 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Feb-21-2012, 11:41 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Feb-22-2012, 06:26 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Feb-23-2012, 05:28 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by FoolishGirl - Feb-23-2012, 07:48 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Valarya - Feb-23-2012, 08:52 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by FoolishGirl - Feb-24-2012, 03:33 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Feb-24-2012, 09:20 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Omie - Mar-16-2012, 01:30 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by FoolishGirl - Mar-16-2012, 06:26 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Valarya - Mar-16-2012, 01:59 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Mar-16-2012, 02:34 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Mar-18-2012, 08:56 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Narya - Mar-18-2012, 06:23 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by fool-ish - Mar-18-2012, 02:12 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Mar-18-2012, 03:37 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Mar-18-2012, 03:45 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Valarya - Mar-18-2012, 09:41 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Narya - Mar-18-2012, 09:58 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by fool-ish - Mar-19-2012, 12:35 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by luckbringer - Apr-10-2012, 05:38 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Mar-19-2012, 06:26 AM (UTC)
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RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Apr-10-2012, 11:55 AM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Apr-10-2012, 01:02 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by FoolishGirl - Apr-10-2012, 03:08 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Apr-10-2012, 04:36 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Apr-10-2012, 06:42 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by 'thul - Apr-10-2012, 08:47 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by fool-ish - Apr-10-2012, 09:13 PM (UTC)
RE: The ending doesn't make sense? Spoilers Farseer & Tawny Man - by Farseer - Apr-10-2012, 11:52 PM (UTC)

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