Feb-18-2011, 11:01 PM (UTC)
Farseer. Actually I might be going mad...I saw your post and started hunting for a scene where the Fool appears with a rose emblem embroidered on his costume. Gad, I cannot find it and wonder if it twas a dream! This image made everything else for me assume a significance perhaps it didn't have. Maybe I'm so obsessed at the moment that RL and fantasy are blending! Does anyone else recall such a scene ? if not then maybe I am prescient and its in a future book!!!..steals my thunder a bit though..sorry.
I have had some fun looking and of course ended up reading huge chunks instead of getting on with 'Dragon Keeper'. I have: the carved flower given to Garetha, Rose oil in the bath, the rose scented 'kerchief over his eyes(I think this happens at the Bresingas) along with huge bouquets of roses in the room. (This just could be the Bresingas hospitality but did they know the Fool was fond of roses?) Fool asks (sarcastically) whether Kettricken had scattered rose petals in front of the traders(they would not have questioned it because she was foreign to them) In FF the little teapot the Fool has with him has a rose shaped lid. The analogy with the white and red roses which leads to the Fool speculating as to whether Fitz had been touched by dragons in the past. (earlier after spying on the traders the Fool is talking of flying dragons and Fitz has the ghost of a memory where he seemed to be flying himself) With the rose found on 'others island' I was also looking for a meaning and so thought there had to be some significance.
Non Fool linked rose stuff, the pale woman uses an analogy, something along the lines of 'futures bud at the end of every moment,each one changed by a falling rose petal..' Hap talks about not wanting to tend his master's wife's rose garden, Patience talks about caterpillars on the roses to show how things had changed with the times. I haven't 'attacked' the first trilogy yet or liveships but hadn't picked up anything in my initial readings other than the Others Island thing.
I don't know what this means if anything. Red roses are traditionally linked with love but I'm wondering if there's a link with roses and change, with roses somehow representing life before a change. (Rose bushes live a long time even if the flowers don't, the Others Island rose will not perish, love never dies) or perhaps as a portent to change.(dragon analogy,caterpillars,falling petals) which is why they might appeal to the Fool. Of course he may just like the scent... I need to think some more about this. Sorry if this disappoints and you've heard it all before.I'm still relatively new to these books. I'm off to view the rose thread you mentioned now. Fascinating.
I have had some fun looking and of course ended up reading huge chunks instead of getting on with 'Dragon Keeper'. I have: the carved flower given to Garetha, Rose oil in the bath, the rose scented 'kerchief over his eyes(I think this happens at the Bresingas) along with huge bouquets of roses in the room. (This just could be the Bresingas hospitality but did they know the Fool was fond of roses?) Fool asks (sarcastically) whether Kettricken had scattered rose petals in front of the traders(they would not have questioned it because she was foreign to them) In FF the little teapot the Fool has with him has a rose shaped lid. The analogy with the white and red roses which leads to the Fool speculating as to whether Fitz had been touched by dragons in the past. (earlier after spying on the traders the Fool is talking of flying dragons and Fitz has the ghost of a memory where he seemed to be flying himself) With the rose found on 'others island' I was also looking for a meaning and so thought there had to be some significance.
Non Fool linked rose stuff, the pale woman uses an analogy, something along the lines of 'futures bud at the end of every moment,each one changed by a falling rose petal..' Hap talks about not wanting to tend his master's wife's rose garden, Patience talks about caterpillars on the roses to show how things had changed with the times. I haven't 'attacked' the first trilogy yet or liveships but hadn't picked up anything in my initial readings other than the Others Island thing.
I don't know what this means if anything. Red roses are traditionally linked with love but I'm wondering if there's a link with roses and change, with roses somehow representing life before a change. (Rose bushes live a long time even if the flowers don't, the Others Island rose will not perish, love never dies) or perhaps as a portent to change.(dragon analogy,caterpillars,falling petals) which is why they might appeal to the Fool. Of course he may just like the scent... I need to think some more about this. Sorry if this disappoints and you've heard it all before.I'm still relatively new to these books. I'm off to view the rose thread you mentioned now. Fascinating.