Jul-11-2011, 07:43 AM (UTC)
(This post was last modified: Jul-11-2011, 08:06 AM (UTC) by Farseer.)
Just going on Fool's mention of 'late spring'...
From what I can gather from Thymara's observations of her surroundings at the beginning of DK, she had witnessed the 'hatching' during the summer (she noted that 'Summer had awakened a million shades of green there' and 'It was not an exceedingly warm day for summer') and Tintaglia herself said that she wanted the summer sun to be full upon the cocoons/dragons before they saw the light, as she didn't think that they would be fully developed by the spring.
Either way, it appears that it was precisely on the '15th Day of the Greening Moon' as that was the day that Tintaglia had decreed that the cocoons would finally be exposed to sunlight. Of course, Thymara's observations could have just pointed to those that happen when summer is 'upon' us, not actually 'here' (??) like a 'changing time' eg you can see the affects of summer here in Australia with the heatwaves and storms although it is not yet summer...? I'm stretching things, I know! 
The previous chapter had seen Leftrin, in spring, finding the cocoon that had drifted due to the spring floods.
Major Spoilers for TM coming up...!
Just as a little more on the overall timing, Thymara had witnessed the dragons emerging from their cocoons five years prior (when she was eleven) to the time that she'd noted, at age sixteen, that Tintaglia had found a mate after 'Some prince of the far Six Duchies had unearthed the dragon...' ...which is only six chapters into DK and had already happened in the latter stages of FF.
We can't say that events at the end of TM/FF were fully completed by this point in DK though, as much continued to happen in the plot after Tintaglia and Icefyre first took flight, and who is to say how much real time was covered by the notes Fitz inserted into the final pages? eg the events with Fool and the courtship of Molly alone seemed to take forever, not to mention the three years until she and Fitz finally wed, the birth of Prosper and the two visits for hawking etc...
Before they had even chosen to trick the Rain Wilders into taking them to 'Kelsingra, the dragons had also noted that Tintaglia had found a mate...but she had not found Icefyre at the time of their hatching.
As for Selden, it does mention in DK that he was being asked to go off and find out what had happened to Tintaglia and demand her return, and, if he did do this (I can't remember...I REALLY have to re-read DK and DH!!), the timing would not fit with his visit to the SD, which had taken place well prior to the events in Aslevjal. EDIT: Also. Tintaglia was 'with' Selden, in his mind, when he ran into Fitz at Buckkeep.END EDIT. So, I'm not sure why I've been thinking his lack of presence in the Rain Wilds during RWC coincided with his presence in the SD?! As much time as I spend trying to sort these books out, I spend an even greater amount of time waltzing around in circles...
...!
Anyone else have thoughts on the timings of everything and would it be okay if I spilt this thread to allow us to discuss/develop the timing etc even further?
I also considered asking Robin directly re the timeline of events but it is somewhat much more difficult to effectively manage spoilers within the Newsgroup (not to mention it helps us dig up all sorts of riches if we have to do it for ourselves!
). Let's see how we go and then I can ask her to confirm if we are correct...?
From what I can gather from Thymara's observations of her surroundings at the beginning of DK, she had witnessed the 'hatching' during the summer (she noted that 'Summer had awakened a million shades of green there' and 'It was not an exceedingly warm day for summer') and Tintaglia herself said that she wanted the summer sun to be full upon the cocoons/dragons before they saw the light, as she didn't think that they would be fully developed by the spring.
Either way, it appears that it was precisely on the '15th Day of the Greening Moon' as that was the day that Tintaglia had decreed that the cocoons would finally be exposed to sunlight. Of course, Thymara's observations could have just pointed to those that happen when summer is 'upon' us, not actually 'here' (??) like a 'changing time' eg you can see the affects of summer here in Australia with the heatwaves and storms although it is not yet summer...? I'm stretching things, I know! The previous chapter had seen Leftrin, in spring, finding the cocoon that had drifted due to the spring floods.
Major Spoilers for TM coming up...!
Just as a little more on the overall timing, Thymara had witnessed the dragons emerging from their cocoons five years prior (when she was eleven) to the time that she'd noted, at age sixteen, that Tintaglia had found a mate after 'Some prince of the far Six Duchies had unearthed the dragon...' ...which is only six chapters into DK and had already happened in the latter stages of FF.
We can't say that events at the end of TM/FF were fully completed by this point in DK though, as much continued to happen in the plot after Tintaglia and Icefyre first took flight, and who is to say how much real time was covered by the notes Fitz inserted into the final pages? eg the events with Fool and the courtship of Molly alone seemed to take forever, not to mention the three years until she and Fitz finally wed, the birth of Prosper and the two visits for hawking etc...
Before they had even chosen to trick the Rain Wilders into taking them to 'Kelsingra, the dragons had also noted that Tintaglia had found a mate...but she had not found Icefyre at the time of their hatching.
As for Selden, it does mention in DK that he was being asked to go off and find out what had happened to Tintaglia and demand her return, and, if he did do this (I can't remember...I REALLY have to re-read DK and DH!!), the timing would not fit with his visit to the SD, which had taken place well prior to the events in Aslevjal. EDIT: Also. Tintaglia was 'with' Selden, in his mind, when he ran into Fitz at Buckkeep.END EDIT. So, I'm not sure why I've been thinking his lack of presence in the Rain Wilds during RWC coincided with his presence in the SD?! As much time as I spend trying to sort these books out, I spend an even greater amount of time waltzing around in circles...
...! Anyone else have thoughts on the timings of everything and would it be okay if I spilt this thread to allow us to discuss/develop the timing etc even further?
I also considered asking Robin directly re the timeline of events but it is somewhat much more difficult to effectively manage spoilers within the Newsgroup (not to mention it helps us dig up all sorts of riches if we have to do it for ourselves!
). Let's see how we go and then I can ask her to confirm if we are correct...?
"I am the Catalyst, and I came to change all things. Prophets become warriors, dragons hunt as wolves."
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