Feb-27-2011, 01:18 AM (UTC)
(This post was last modified: Feb-27-2011, 01:29 AM (UTC) by Farseer.)
So many things I want to respond to in so many threads!!
Yes, Nuytsia, as far as I can surmise, Realder's dragon is potentially a massive plot hole as per my previous posts. What we are told in AQ conflicts terribly with what we are told in TM.
Even so, it is all fairly complicated, particularly when the events of the AQ and FF plaza scenes are added in (as I have done for my Rooster Crown theory!) so I am still trying to determine the possibility that Fool has simply been mistaken due to his very first dream where Realder had promised he would fly him, or if it's something else altogether that we've missed somewhere. Fool's dream was in AQ, when they were on the Skill Road, and it was from this dream that he first identified and named Realder's dragon when the party came across him in the Stone Garden. At that, and every other reference in AQ, Realder's dragon has no connection whatsoever with GoaD.
It is difficult to see, no matter what research I do or what connection there is if there is no plot hole, how it is that Realder's dragon can be known as Realder's dragon (the first dragon awoken by N'eye and Fitz and also the last to leave the quarry at the commencement of the Red Ships War) and yet the other dragon within the GoaD simulacra could also be named after Realder. Of course, it IS possible that both could be named after Realder, remembering that the double referencing of something deems that 'something' to be particularly important.
Anyhow, it's been a point of research with me since I first read FF.
As an aside, GoaD was made up from Salt's Coterie, as well as Fool and even Fitz
...and I think it's signifcant that Fitz' memories were later swapped for the Rooster Crown! More on that later...
In Dragon Haven, Chaprter Thirteen, 'Decision Point', it says this of Sedric who is fretting about Relpda finding out about what he'd done to her: "He did not understand how she could not remember that he had come by darkness, to pluck scales from her and fill vials with her blood."
Though it's true it was not mentioned during the actual event, Sedric here remembers plucking scales as well as drawing blood, and that would then support there later being copper scales in vials? Not sure...clutching at straws...the RWC is my least strong point in the RotE books!
Yes, Nuytsia, as far as I can surmise, Realder's dragon is potentially a massive plot hole as per my previous posts. What we are told in AQ conflicts terribly with what we are told in TM.
Even so, it is all fairly complicated, particularly when the events of the AQ and FF plaza scenes are added in (as I have done for my Rooster Crown theory!) so I am still trying to determine the possibility that Fool has simply been mistaken due to his very first dream where Realder had promised he would fly him, or if it's something else altogether that we've missed somewhere. Fool's dream was in AQ, when they were on the Skill Road, and it was from this dream that he first identified and named Realder's dragon when the party came across him in the Stone Garden. At that, and every other reference in AQ, Realder's dragon has no connection whatsoever with GoaD.
It is difficult to see, no matter what research I do or what connection there is if there is no plot hole, how it is that Realder's dragon can be known as Realder's dragon (the first dragon awoken by N'eye and Fitz and also the last to leave the quarry at the commencement of the Red Ships War) and yet the other dragon within the GoaD simulacra could also be named after Realder. Of course, it IS possible that both could be named after Realder, remembering that the double referencing of something deems that 'something' to be particularly important.
Anyhow, it's been a point of research with me since I first read FF.
As an aside, GoaD was made up from Salt's Coterie, as well as Fool and even Fitz
...and I think it's signifcant that Fitz' memories were later swapped for the Rooster Crown! More on that later...In Dragon Haven, Chaprter Thirteen, 'Decision Point', it says this of Sedric who is fretting about Relpda finding out about what he'd done to her: "He did not understand how she could not remember that he had come by darkness, to pluck scales from her and fill vials with her blood."
Though it's true it was not mentioned during the actual event, Sedric here remembers plucking scales as well as drawing blood, and that would then support there later being copper scales in vials? Not sure...clutching at straws...the RWC is my least strong point in the RotE books!
"I am the Catalyst, and I came to change all things. Prophets become warriors, dragons hunt as wolves."
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