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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:33:08 +0300</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[the Liavek stories]]></title>
			<link>http://forums.theplenty.net/showthread.php?tid=13</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:09:49 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Has anyone read these? I just received my first Liavek book today (bought it on eBay). My problem is that it's "[[Liavek, Players of Luck]]" which is the second one in this series. Should I wait until I can find a copy of the first book, or can I just dive right in? I remember reading that the character in the Lindholm stories is always the same one, so maybe I should start from the beginning? *bites nails*]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Has anyone read these? I just received my first Liavek book today (bought it on eBay). My problem is that it's "[[Liavek, Players of Luck]]" which is the second one in this series. Should I wait until I can find a copy of the first book, or can I just dive right in? I remember reading that the character in the Lindholm stories is always the same one, so maybe I should start from the beginning? *bites nails*]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[What are you reading right now?]]></title>
			<link>http://forums.theplenty.net/showthread.php?tid=12</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:04:10 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Since Mervi has done such an amazing job setting up the wiki, there aren't a lot of questions left to ask about Hobb or her books. So, I'll start a discussion about what books are tiding you guys over until the next Hobb release.<br />
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I'm currently reading Elven Star by Weis and Hickman. Book two of the Death Gate Cycle series.<br />
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<br />
I didn't start reading much fantasy until about 5 years ago, so I have a lot of catching up to do. With the help of a few book review blogs and Amazon's star rating system, I've been able to find a lot of great older books. I only have about 50 pages left, so I'm planning on finishing it up tonight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Since Mervi has done such an amazing job setting up the wiki, there aren't a lot of questions left to ask about Hobb or her books. So, I'll start a discussion about what books are tiding you guys over until the next Hobb release.<br />
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I'm currently reading Elven Star by Weis and Hickman. Book two of the Death Gate Cycle series.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
I didn't start reading much fantasy until about 5 years ago, so I have a lot of catching up to do. With the help of a few book review blogs and Amazon's star rating system, I've been able to find a lot of great older books. I only have about 50 pages left, so I'm planning on finishing it up tonight.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The Treasure Beaches of the Internet]]></title>
			<link>http://forums.theplenty.net/showthread.php?tid=11</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 00:19:33 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'm not quite sure if this is a good idea, but we'll never know if we don't try, right? :) I was thinking that whenever one of us runs into any interesting Hobb/Lindholm related goodies that are on sale online, we could make a note about it here so those of us who are collecting things could find them easier. I don't mean that we should index every Hobb title that's sold on Amazon's marketplace or eBay here, but just things that might go unnoticed otherwise.<br />
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Please remember that you alone can decide whether buying online or from certain sellers is safe or worth the risks for you. None of the items listed in this thread are guaranteed to be what the description says by those who post links here or by thePlenty.net's administration.  <br />
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Now, here's the item that brought this idea to my head:<br />
A bunch of "Humpty Dumpty's" on eBay, one of them contains [[Koko's Day Out]] (the one with the green cover, third in the first row).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm not quite sure if this is a good idea, but we'll never know if we don't try, right? :) I was thinking that whenever one of us runs into any interesting Hobb/Lindholm related goodies that are on sale online, we could make a note about it here so those of us who are collecting things could find them easier. I don't mean that we should index every Hobb title that's sold on Amazon's marketplace or eBay here, but just things that might go unnoticed otherwise.<br />
<br />
Please remember that you alone can decide whether buying online or from certain sellers is safe or worth the risks for you. None of the items listed in this thread are guaranteed to be what the description says by those who post links here or by thePlenty.net's administration.  <br />
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Now, here's the item that brought this idea to my head:<br />
A bunch of "Humpty Dumpty's" on eBay, one of them contains [[Koko's Day Out]] (the one with the green cover, third in the first row).]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[If you've read Farseer and LiveShip I've got a question]]></title>
			<link>http://forums.theplenty.net/showthread.php?tid=10</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 15:25:24 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I've finished reading the Farseer series and nearly completed the Ship Of Magic, and wondered if others felt as I have.<br />
Ship Of Magic is disconcerting me a great deal. My mind is torn by what is occuring in this book. As Vivacia states, '...I think it is what your great-great grandmother would have called a premonition...'<br />
<br />
I am enjoying all the various characters, and love some of them, loath others, and feel ambivalance to yet others. This is, of couse, the  job of a good author, and Hobb is a great author. There were times is the Farseer, I felt the same way, though not to this strong effect.<br />
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So, has anyone else felt a real sense of unsettled feelings reading the books?[font=Courier][/font]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I've finished reading the Farseer series and nearly completed the Ship Of Magic, and wondered if others felt as I have.<br />
Ship Of Magic is disconcerting me a great deal. My mind is torn by what is occuring in this book. As Vivacia states, '...I think it is what your great-great grandmother would have called a premonition...'<br />
<br />
I am enjoying all the various characters, and love some of them, loath others, and feel ambivalance to yet others. This is, of couse, the  job of a good author, and Hobb is a great author. There were times is the Farseer, I felt the same way, though not to this strong effect.<br />
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So, has anyone else felt a real sense of unsettled feelings reading the books?[font=Courier][/font]]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Hobb-fanimiitti Finnconissa la 26.7. klo 16]]></title>
			<link>http://forums.theplenty.net/showthread.php?tid=9</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 00:30:17 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Miltäs kuulostaisi idea, että järjestämme tapaamisajan, -paikan ja ehkä jopa mahdollisesti jotain ohjelmaa Hobb-faneille Finncon 08:n yhteyteen? Jos olemme ajoissa liikkeellä, saan varattua meille järjestäjien puolesta tilankin. :)<br />
Finncon 2008: 26.-27.7.2008, Tampere<br />
Vahvistettu aika ja paikka on la 16-17 Opus 4 -tilassa (jatkosta voidaan sitten sopia ideoiden mukaan erikseen). (Tampere-talon kartta, Opus 4 löytyy toisesta kerroksesta).<br />
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(Kommentteja voi jättää tähän nyt ainakin toistaiseksi rekisteröitymättä, allekirjoitathan viestisi silti nimelläsi tai nickilläsi, kiitos.)<br />
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And in English:<br />
Finncon 2008 will be held from 26th to 27th of July in Tampere, Finland. If you're attending (or just happen to be in Finland around that time) you can participate in a meeting of Hobb fans. We have a room (Opus 4 -room in the 2nd floor of Tampere-talo, see the map) reserved for our use from 4PM to 5PM on Saturday the 26th, but who knows what other plans we'll come up with. <br />
In an attempt to keep things as easy as possible, I suggest that you leave any comments, ideas or see-you-theres here. You don't have to register to comment on this thread, just sign your post with your nick/name, please.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Miltäs kuulostaisi idea, että järjestämme tapaamisajan, -paikan ja ehkä jopa mahdollisesti jotain ohjelmaa Hobb-faneille Finncon 08:n yhteyteen? Jos olemme ajoissa liikkeellä, saan varattua meille järjestäjien puolesta tilankin. :)<br />
Finncon 2008: 26.-27.7.2008, Tampere<br />
Vahvistettu aika ja paikka on la 16-17 Opus 4 -tilassa (jatkosta voidaan sitten sopia ideoiden mukaan erikseen). (Tampere-talon kartta, Opus 4 löytyy toisesta kerroksesta).<br />
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(Kommentteja voi jättää tähän nyt ainakin toistaiseksi rekisteröitymättä, allekirjoitathan viestisi silti nimelläsi tai nickilläsi, kiitos.)<br />
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And in English:<br />
Finncon 2008 will be held from 26th to 27th of July in Tampere, Finland. If you're attending (or just happen to be in Finland around that time) you can participate in a meeting of Hobb fans. We have a room (Opus 4 -room in the 2nd floor of Tampere-talo, see the map) reserved for our use from 4PM to 5PM on Saturday the 26th, but who knows what other plans we'll come up with. <br />
In an attempt to keep things as easy as possible, I suggest that you leave any comments, ideas or see-you-theres here. You don't have to register to comment on this thread, just sign your post with your nick/name, please.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Suggestions]]></title>
			<link>http://forums.theplenty.net/showthread.php?tid=7</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:59:54 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'm starting this one :) <br />
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Please, add the forums to the navigation of theplenty.net! Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm starting this one :) <br />
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Please, add the forums to the navigation of theplenty.net! Thank you!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Show us your bookshelves!]]></title>
			<link>http://forums.theplenty.net/showthread.php?tid=6</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:40:41 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[So let's talk about collecting Hobb/Lindholm books a little. What are your personal "requirements"? Do you only collect hardbacks, or first editions, or US editions only? Or just about anything that you come across?<br />
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I have a very mixed back in my bookshelf. All my Lindholm stories are paperbacks, and most of them are UK and/or reprint editions - a couple are second hand copies purchased from ebay because they're out of print. My copy of the Gypsy is a mass market paperback, and I don't like how it's in different size than the rest of them... but it was difficult enough to get a new copy of it, so I shouldn't complain.<br />
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When I first started buying the Elderling trilogies, the most recent book was (I think) Fool's Errand or the Golden Fool. So what was available in bookstores here were paperbacks up to those new ones. I chose to collect the UK paperbacks, mainly because I'm a huge John Howe fan and I didn't like the US covers for the LST  trilogy. The first hardback I bought was Fool's Fate, and I've since then tried to slowly rebuilt my collection to hardbacks so they might survive the continuous re-reading better. (I need to find a better paying to job to ever get a chance to purchase the UK hardback of AA, though! :D)<br />
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I'll try to take a photo of my humble collection soon and post it here. <br />
<br />
What have you got? :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[So let's talk about collecting Hobb/Lindholm books a little. What are your personal "requirements"? Do you only collect hardbacks, or first editions, or US editions only? Or just about anything that you come across?<br />
<br />
I have a very mixed back in my bookshelf. All my Lindholm stories are paperbacks, and most of them are UK and/or reprint editions - a couple are second hand copies purchased from ebay because they're out of print. My copy of the Gypsy is a mass market paperback, and I don't like how it's in different size than the rest of them... but it was difficult enough to get a new copy of it, so I shouldn't complain.<br />
<br />
When I first started buying the Elderling trilogies, the most recent book was (I think) Fool's Errand or the Golden Fool. So what was available in bookstores here were paperbacks up to those new ones. I chose to collect the UK paperbacks, mainly because I'm a huge John Howe fan and I didn't like the US covers for the LST  trilogy. The first hardback I bought was Fool's Fate, and I've since then tried to slowly rebuilt my collection to hardbacks so they might survive the continuous re-reading better. (I need to find a better paying to job to ever get a chance to purchase the UK hardback of AA, though! :D)<br />
<br />
I'll try to take a photo of my humble collection soon and post it here. <br />
<br />
What have you got? :)]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Hobb-käännösten tulevaisuus]]></title>
			<link>http://forums.theplenty.net/showthread.php?tid=5</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:05:39 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Tiedustelin viimeksi vuoden 2007 marraskuussa Otavalta heidän jatkoaikeitaan Hobbin kääntämisen suhteen (tai edes Lordi Kultaisen uudelleenjulkaisua pokkareina). Vastauksen ydin oli seuraava:<br />
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Quote:Tällä hetkellä meidän suunnitelmissa ei ole pokkariversiota Lordi Kultainen -sarjasta eikä uusia suomennoksia Robin Hobbin tuotannosta.<br />
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Vaikka Hobb-suomennosten tasosta voidaan olla montaa mieltä, on silti selvää että iso osa lukijakunnasta jää paljosta paitsi, kun ainoastaan Näkijän taru ja Lordi Kultainen-trilogia on tarjolla suomeksi. Varsinkin nyt, kun on tiedossa, että seuraava kirja (työnimi Dragonkeeper, julkaisu 2009/2010?) sijoittuu Sadekorpeen, olisi varsin olennaista, että myös triplatrilogian keskiosat käännettäisiin. Minusta näyttää aika selvältä, että Hobb on suomalaisten fantasiaharrastajien keskuudessa varsin arvostettu ja suosittu (jos esim. katsotaan kotimaisten alan foorumien keskusteluja tai esim. Lordi Kultaisen osien sijoituksia Mitä Suomi lukee-listoilla julkaisujen jälkeisinä kuukausina). Mikä siis neuvoksi? Otavalle toiveita kääntämisestä on esittänyt niin moni niin kauan, että jos siellä suunniteltaisiin jotain toimia, niin vastaus olisi varmaan jo muuttunut positiivisemmaksi. Pitäisikö siis kääntyä joukolla jonkin toisen kustantamon puoleen?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Tiedustelin viimeksi vuoden 2007 marraskuussa Otavalta heidän jatkoaikeitaan Hobbin kääntämisen suhteen (tai edes Lordi Kultaisen uudelleenjulkaisua pokkareina). Vastauksen ydin oli seuraava:<br />
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Quote:Tällä hetkellä meidän suunnitelmissa ei ole pokkariversiota Lordi Kultainen -sarjasta eikä uusia suomennoksia Robin Hobbin tuotannosta.<br />
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Vaikka Hobb-suomennosten tasosta voidaan olla montaa mieltä, on silti selvää että iso osa lukijakunnasta jää paljosta paitsi, kun ainoastaan Näkijän taru ja Lordi Kultainen-trilogia on tarjolla suomeksi. Varsinkin nyt, kun on tiedossa, että seuraava kirja (työnimi Dragonkeeper, julkaisu 2009/2010?) sijoittuu Sadekorpeen, olisi varsin olennaista, että myös triplatrilogian keskiosat käännettäisiin. Minusta näyttää aika selvältä, että Hobb on suomalaisten fantasiaharrastajien keskuudessa varsin arvostettu ja suosittu (jos esim. katsotaan kotimaisten alan foorumien keskusteluja tai esim. Lordi Kultaisen osien sijoituksia Mitä Suomi lukee-listoilla julkaisujen jälkeisinä kuukausina). Mikä siis neuvoksi? Otavalle toiveita kääntämisestä on esittänyt niin moni niin kauan, että jos siellä suunniteltaisiin jotain toimia, niin vastaus olisi varmaan jo muuttunut positiivisemmaksi. Pitäisikö siis kääntyä joukolla jonkin toisen kustantamon puoleen?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[PlentyWiki users! Read before you register!]]></title>
			<link>http://forums.theplenty.net/showthread.php?tid=4</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:46:06 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I have installed a plug-in that allows people to use the same username and password both here and in the PlentyWiki. <br />
<br />
Existing PlentyWiki users:<br />
If you already have a wiki account, it can save you some trouble if you pick the same username/password for your use here (how well your "sessions" are remembered depends on how your browser saves cookies, though). Unfortunately I haven't  so far found a way to make this work the other way around (creating automatically forum IDs for existing wikiusers that is).<br />
<br />
New users without a wiki account:<br />
Anyone who creates an account here at the forums can use the same username & password at the wiki, no additional registration there is required. (Again, you have to login separately to both though, and it depends on your browser how long your "sessions" last. Still, this hopefully makes things easier.)<br />
Welcome! :)<br />
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If you encounter any problems with this feature, please let me know! And don't hesitate to ask any questions, I'll try to explain how this works. :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I have installed a plug-in that allows people to use the same username and password both here and in the PlentyWiki. <br />
<br />
Existing PlentyWiki users:<br />
If you already have a wiki account, it can save you some trouble if you pick the same username/password for your use here (how well your "sessions" are remembered depends on how your browser saves cookies, though). Unfortunately I haven't  so far found a way to make this work the other way around (creating automatically forum IDs for existing wikiusers that is).<br />
<br />
New users without a wiki account:<br />
Anyone who creates an account here at the forums can use the same username & password at the wiki, no additional registration there is required. (Again, you have to login separately to both though, and it depends on your browser how long your "sessions" last. Still, this hopefully makes things easier.)<br />
Welcome! :)<br />
<br />
If you encounter any problems with this feature, please let me know! And don't hesitate to ask any questions, I'll try to explain how this works. :D]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[&quot;First, let me introduce you to yourself&quot;]]></title>
			<link>http://forums.theplenty.net/showthread.php?tid=3</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:17:45 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Here's where you can say hello to everyone else and write a couple of sentences about yourself, how you found Hobb's stories, how obsessed you are, how you found here, links to your homepage/blog/myspace etc and whatever else you want to tell us about yourself. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Here's where you can say hello to everyone else and write a couple of sentences about yourself, how you found Hobb's stories, how obsessed you are, how you found here, links to your homepage/blog/myspace etc and whatever else you want to tell us about yourself. :)]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Forum rules]]></title>
			<link>http://forums.theplenty.net/showthread.php?tid=2</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:14:12 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[1. No flaming, name-calling, flooding, spamming or attacking other posters. If you don't know how to behave, we'll send you to lady Patience's chambers.<br />
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2. Please be aware of spoilers. Stay away from areas and topics which are about books you haven't yet read. Don't post spoilery things in topics they don't belong in. <br />
You wouldn't have wanted someone to ruin the plot for you, would you?<br />
<br />
3. No fanfiction, no links to fanfiction. This is a site-wide policy. You can discuss it though, if you really think that's necessary. And posting fanart is very much ok. <br />
<br />
4. Although there is a room for off-topic chat, please try to remember that this isn't a general forum, but a very specific one. So do think twice before you start a thread about politics/religion/your favourite brand of washing powder. Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[1. No flaming, name-calling, flooding, spamming or attacking other posters. If you don't know how to behave, we'll send you to lady Patience's chambers.<br />
<br />
2. Please be aware of spoilers. Stay away from areas and topics which are about books you haven't yet read. Don't post spoilery things in topics they don't belong in. <br />
You wouldn't have wanted someone to ruin the plot for you, would you?<br />
<br />
3. No fanfiction, no links to fanfiction. This is a site-wide policy. You can discuss it though, if you really think that's necessary. And posting fanart is very much ok. <br />
<br />
4. Although there is a room for off-topic chat, please try to remember that this isn't a general forum, but a very specific one. So do think twice before you start a thread about politics/religion/your favourite brand of washing powder. Thank you!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Forum FAQ]]></title>
			<link>http://forums.theplenty.net/showthread.php?tid=1</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:12:11 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'm trying to compile a FAQ list of sorts here. Feel free to make suggestions! :)<br />
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User titles<br />
This board includes a system of user titles that are based on the number of posts made. The titles are currently the following:<br />
<br />
* nameless the dog-boy (Minimum Posts: 0) <br />
* newboy (Minimum Posts: 1)<br />
* changer (Minimum Posts: 50) <br />
* catalyst (Minimum Posts: 250)<br />
* beloved (Minimum Posts: 750)<br />
<br />
wikifying links<br />
You can link to articles in the PlentyWiki  simply by using [ [ and ] ] around the appropriate article name within your message text like you would in the wiki itself. For example: I really like [[Burrich]] but I do feel for poor [[Fitz]] whenever he's being too strict with him.<br />
<br />
spoilers<br />
<br />
If you're mentioning something that you think might spoil the plot (for example you compare Fitz and Nevare in a topic that is not in a Soldier Son-related thread) you can use the spoiler tag. <br />
<br />
You can click on the the round blue "i" symbol above the message box or simply write the spoilery [ spoil ]text here between these tags [ / spoil ] and it will Spoil: hide the text.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm trying to compile a FAQ list of sorts here. Feel free to make suggestions! :)<br />
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User titles<br />
This board includes a system of user titles that are based on the number of posts made. The titles are currently the following:<br />
<br />
* nameless the dog-boy (Minimum Posts: 0) <br />
* newboy (Minimum Posts: 1)<br />
* changer (Minimum Posts: 50) <br />
* catalyst (Minimum Posts: 250)<br />
* beloved (Minimum Posts: 750)<br />
<br />
wikifying links<br />
You can link to articles in the PlentyWiki  simply by using [ [ and ] ] around the appropriate article name within your message text like you would in the wiki itself. For example: I really like [[Burrich]] but I do feel for poor [[Fitz]] whenever he's being too strict with him.<br />
<br />
spoilers<br />
<br />
If you're mentioning something that you think might spoil the plot (for example you compare Fitz and Nevare in a topic that is not in a Soldier Son-related thread) you can use the spoiler tag. <br />
<br />
You can click on the the round blue "i" symbol above the message box or simply write the spoilery [ spoil ]text here between these tags [ / spoil ] and it will Spoil: hide the text.]]></content:encoded>
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