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NeverBeenWise · Jul-16-2010, 04:20 AM (UTC)

(Jul-11-2010, 09:33 PM (UTC))Albertosaurus Rex Wrote: Neverbeenwise: do you still read the Redwall books? I used to be a huge fan, but my enjoyment started dwindling at Rakkety Tam and I finally stopped reading in the middle of Eulalia! Maybe it's because I'm older now or maybe Brian Jacques has gotten worse, I don't know, but I haven't enjoyed the last few books.

I do still read Redwall, but mostly for nostalgia. I agree, the plots seem far more contrived than they originally did, and he's trying too hard to make things new and fresh and different. Maybe it's because he's filled in all the gaps in the books and now has resigned himself to writing the end of the series in chronological order.

Albertosaurus Rex · (This post was last modified: Jul-19-2010, 04:51 PM (UTC) by Albertosaurus Rex.)

Yeah, I really miss that sense of history that Redwall used to have, going back and forth between time periods, filling in gaps... I don't like how more recent books are all disjointed - there's no telling how much time has passed between books, unlike earlier books when characters who were children in one novel would be adults in the next. And once you've written the stories of Martin and Luke and Brocktree, what else is there to do?

I still do love the older books, but that might be, as you say, nostalgia.

'thul · (This post was last modified: Jul-19-2010, 05:06 PM (UTC) by 'thul.)

(Jul-19-2010, 04:51 PM (UTC))Albertosaurus Rex Wrote: Yeah, I really miss that sense of history that Redwall used to have, going back and forth between time periods, filling in gaps...

That sounds rather like a book series these beings read most of a while ago... the Deverry cycle by Katharine Kerr.

they'd recommend reading that too...

Albertosaurus Rex · Jul-20-2010, 04:47 PM (UTC)

I've actually read the first three books of that series and I have the fourth on my shelves, but I'm unsure if I should read on after that. It feels a little bland to me, personally. I'm kinda waiting for all the past life stuff to pay off.

'thul · Jul-20-2010, 05:13 PM (UTC)

It starts out simple, but it goes to be very much different later on...

The first book (which is below our left arm right now), has a multi-life reference sheet of about 6x3... The last book these beings have read, has a sheet of approximately 20x20... ('thul guesses, they did not check...)

The later books start to twist it all in towards an ending... Especially the last 4-5 books... There it is suddenly down to just a 2-3 year sets again...

A timeline like this series has, requires quite a lot of time to expand out before a finish can be started...

Nuytsia · Jul-22-2010, 03:57 PM (UTC)

Wow that's a long series!
I think we have the first and maybe second book around here somewhere, but I can't remember if I've read or not.

'thul · Jul-22-2010, 05:43 PM (UTC)

It is only 15 books. A timeline as convulted as the one in deverry requires a lot of pages to be untangled.

Nuytsia · Jul-23-2010, 02:32 PM (UTC)

Heh 'only'.
I can't think of any other series that are 15 books (although I'm sure there could be at least some, I'd be prepared to say it's not common)

'thul · Jul-23-2010, 02:34 PM (UTC)

These beings agree. Or at least some aspects of them.

**joost** · Jul-23-2010, 05:52 PM (UTC)

(Jul-23-2010, 02:32 PM (UTC))Nuytsia Wrote: Heh 'only'.
I can't think of any other series that are 15 books (although I'm sure there could be at least some, I'd be prepared to say it's not common)

Wheel of time is currently 11 books (book 12 will be published in october, I think), and probably will be 14 or 15 when it's done.

Fables is currently 13 volumes and going, but I don't know if you can compare graphic novels with written books.

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