home news wiki forums





Existing user? Sign In Create account
Login at thePlenty.net Forums

thePlenty.net Forums › Robin Hobb and Megan Lindholm › Realm of the Elderlings
« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next »

Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven)

Thread tools
Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven)
Offline Farseer
Moderator
2,650 Posts:
 
#35
Jun-19-2010, 04:25 AM (UTC) (This post was last modified: Jun-19-2010, 04:30 AM (UTC) by Farseer.)
I agree, maulkin!!! I have spent the last few days thinking on that very thing! WHY, for an example, didn't Etta's skull quicken? She certainly had worn it for a lot longer than Kennit had worn his charm. Could it be that Kennit had Skill ability via his association with Paragon over the years (or as a result of being an Elderling descendent)? Etta etc did not have this ability/connection and therefore were not able to make a quickening occur?

As for Kennit's charm, yes, he did have it carved especially for him, and then killed the man who carved it to prevent any word of it being spread(despite the man not having any tongue!).

Was it used for another purpose? Yep, it was the cocoon of a dragon and it was this dragon's personality which existed in opposition to Kennit's characteristics P . I know this is obvious to all Smiling , and you all went (duh, I KNOW that!) but the charm does indirectly mention in quite a few places how and why it opposes Kennit...that it is a dragon. From what I understood, the personality of the charm is always that of its dragon after quickening.

Possibly this has something to do with when a piece of wizardwood is carved and how? OR, maybe Paragon took on some of Fitz's personality traits via his association with Amber, not so much from the fact that he was simply carved to look like Fitz? Amber and he were close and had shared many memories and experiences, even memories of Fitz. At one point Paragon noted that he could see Fitz in his mind, as Amber talked of him and thought of him while she carved his image. Possibly something of Fitz had even passed through to Paragon via the Skill-link Amber shared with Fitz from her Skill-silvered fingers (which she also used to carve Paragon's face)?

While it could be said that Kennit's charm also shared Kennit's memories etc, and so therefore some exchanging of traits should take place, possibly the dragon of the charm was so sure of his own identity that he knew how to keep himself separate from Kennit (a bit like how Nighteyes and Fitz had learned to keep separate from each other?).

As for previous use, that's an interesting question for ALL pieces of wizardwood throughout the books eg did the wizardwood used for the wizardwood arrows (found by Althea in the stone dragon in The Barrens, or the one given to Swift by Fool) come undefiled or unfilled prior to being carved as an arrow, OR had it been used for some other purpose prior to carving...the mind boggles!

I LOVE this website Yay !!!!


"I am the Catalyst, and I came to change all things. Prophets become warriors, dragons hunt as wolves."
Reply
Send thread to a friend
Send thread to a friend
Send thread to a friend
Send thread to a friend

Bookmarks
  • Facebook Facebook
  • Google Google
  • Reddit Reddit
  • Twitter Twitter
  • Blogger Blogger
  • Tumblr Tumblr
  • Pinterest Pinterest

Messages In This Thread
Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by taloshield - Feb-22-2010, 09:31 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers) - by Liquid Ice - Feb-24-2010, 01:41 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers) - by Garetha - Feb-26-2010, 11:30 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers) - by Liquid Ice - Feb-27-2010, 12:08 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers) - by Garetha - Mar-01-2010, 10:40 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers) - by miklc - Mar-13-2010, 11:48 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers) - by Liquid Ice - Mar-15-2010, 01:06 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Mervi - Mar-15-2010, 01:29 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by chriSchaeffer - Mar-19-2010, 06:50 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Nuytsia - Mar-16-2010, 02:26 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Mervi - Mar-20-2010, 01:19 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Chrischa - Mar-20-2010, 11:22 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by maulkin - Mar-20-2010, 01:46 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Anders Sebring - Mar-26-2010, 09:14 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - Apr-01-2010, 05:52 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by maulkin - Apr-01-2010, 10:01 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - Apr-20-2010, 05:21 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - May-08-2010, 03:19 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Chrischa - May-11-2010, 12:39 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - May-13-2010, 04:40 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - May-13-2010, 12:51 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - May-16-2010, 05:46 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Lord Punctual - May-17-2010, 05:09 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - May-17-2010, 07:37 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Chrischa - May-18-2010, 03:51 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - May-19-2010, 01:33 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - Jun-06-2010, 10:00 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Nuytsia - Jun-07-2010, 04:27 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Mervi - Jun-14-2010, 01:48 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Chrischa - Jun-15-2010, 09:15 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Nuytsia - Jun-16-2010, 11:04 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Mervi - Jun-16-2010, 08:36 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Nuytsia - Jun-17-2010, 07:55 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by maulkin - Jun-17-2010, 10:37 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - Jun-19-2010, 04:25 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Mervi - Jun-19-2010, 01:18 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by maulkin - Jun-19-2010, 10:18 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - Jun-23-2010, 03:24 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by maulkin - Jun-23-2010, 03:00 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - Apr-08-2011, 09:31 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - Jun-26-2010, 05:34 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - Aug-18-2010, 02:17 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by 'thul - Aug-18-2010, 02:27 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - Nov-07-2010, 03:18 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - Nov-10-2010, 04:33 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by assasin - Nov-08-2010, 03:06 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by 'thul - Nov-08-2010, 10:00 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by 'thul - Apr-08-2011, 10:20 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by 'thul - Jun-16-2011, 01:01 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by redchild - Jun-17-2011, 12:33 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by 'thul - Jun-17-2011, 06:15 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by assasin - Jun-18-2011, 12:14 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by 'thul - Jun-18-2011, 08:32 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Valarya - Nov-01-2011, 02:59 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - Nov-01-2011, 02:06 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by 'thul - Nov-01-2011, 08:18 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Valarya - Nov-01-2011, 02:10 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by 'thul - Nov-01-2011, 02:16 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by 'thul - Feb-14-2012, 09:28 AM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Valarya - Feb-14-2012, 04:15 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Gielske - Feb-14-2012, 04:44 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Valarya - Feb-14-2012, 04:49 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Gielske - Feb-14-2012, 04:53 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Valarya - Feb-14-2012, 04:58 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Gielske - Feb-14-2012, 05:07 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by 'thul - Feb-14-2012, 05:21 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Valarya - Feb-14-2012, 05:31 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by 'thul - Feb-14-2012, 06:32 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Valarya - Feb-14-2012, 06:41 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Bleach3825 - Apr-26-2012, 09:00 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by Farseer - Apr-26-2012, 11:42 PM (UTC)
RE: Elderling Creations Theory (Spoilers through all the books and Dragon Haven) - by 'thul - Apr-26-2012, 09:26 PM (UTC)

Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  theory on the abominations and events in the realm assasin 2 17,923 Feb-24-2023, 07:52 AM (UTC)
Last Post: celinedion
  Classism in Elderling society? (spoilers RotE books incl Blood of Dragons) redchild 30 169,090 Jul-08-2015, 09:18 PM (UTC)
Last Post: Xunre
  Emotions in the Elderling Realm (SPOILERS all books) Farseer 121 627,720 Dec-03-2012, 02:05 PM (UTC)
Last Post: Farseer
  *spoilers all books* Dragon Haven, Enjoy it? Hate it? Liquid Ice 141 793,212 Nov-29-2012, 02:16 AM (UTC)
Last Post: 'thul



Users browsing this thread:   4 Guest(s)

Please consider supporting this site by purchasing through one of these affiliate links: amazon.co.uk • amazon.com • Thank you! (What's this?)

  •  Return to Top
  •  Contact Us
  •   thePlenty.net
  •  Lite mode
© Rush Crafted with ❤ by iAndrew
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2025 MyBB Group.

site © 2003 - 2025 Mervi • memories(at)theplenty.net • site and copyright info • site map • support us

Linear Mode
Threaded Mode
View a Printable Version
Subscribe to this thread
Add Poll to this thread
Send thread to a friend