Apr-09-2011, 12:24 AM (UTC)
Yes, that's absolutely true, FoolishGirl. Forging isn't strictly a loss of memories in that it takes so much more than memories, reducing a human to basic animal instinct...even less than an animal. I think this is explained quite a lot throughout the books but could it be said that this loss of soul (depending on our different interpretations here of 'soul' ), or humanity, is seated in our memories? Certainly, our memories make us who we are and they are what connects us to others and all things within our lives? Thus a loss of memories ensures a loss of our connections to all of the what, who, where, when, how and why that we once knew?
Like how the white serpent and a number of other serpents in the LST had forgotten and had thus reduced themselves to 'animals' (such as the serpent who died in the Rain River when Tintaglia attempted to help her but the serpent struggled, not remembering that it was the task of a One Who Remembers to assist with the effort of making it upstream), Forged Ones seem to forget everything but the basic needs, fighting over food and items without thought to the one they are fighting with or taking from? They've lost their memories, their connections and all that is entangled within these.
Memories and connections create unity whereas a loss of memories and connections create division? In fact, as an aside, it is this very loss of memories or 'self' that is the most dangerous aspect of the Skill and even the Wit, I believe...one who dapples in these magics is only safe when they are able to retain or grasp some memory and therefore 'come back to themselves'.
Seems to be a parallel there to me (?) but most likely I am clutching at straws again...I am rather skilled at that! Still, if I wanted to rule the world, ridding everything of its memories (be it emotional, geographical, life cycle, practical etc), and subsequently all connections, would be a good place to start. Except then along would come two such as Beloved and Changer who would work together to re-create the memories and/or connections and overturn the divisive forces to ensure unity in the realm once more.
Lots more to add when time (and less interrupting tasks!) allows for some clearer thinking...I am having thoughts that I'd like to contradict myself and we can't have that!
Like how the white serpent and a number of other serpents in the LST had forgotten and had thus reduced themselves to 'animals' (such as the serpent who died in the Rain River when Tintaglia attempted to help her but the serpent struggled, not remembering that it was the task of a One Who Remembers to assist with the effort of making it upstream), Forged Ones seem to forget everything but the basic needs, fighting over food and items without thought to the one they are fighting with or taking from? They've lost their memories, their connections and all that is entangled within these.
Memories and connections create unity whereas a loss of memories and connections create division? In fact, as an aside, it is this very loss of memories or 'self' that is the most dangerous aspect of the Skill and even the Wit, I believe...one who dapples in these magics is only safe when they are able to retain or grasp some memory and therefore 'come back to themselves'.
Seems to be a parallel there to me (?) but most likely I am clutching at straws again...I am rather skilled at that! Still, if I wanted to rule the world, ridding everything of its memories (be it emotional, geographical, life cycle, practical etc), and subsequently all connections, would be a good place to start. Except then along would come two such as Beloved and Changer who would work together to re-create the memories and/or connections and overturn the divisive forces to ensure unity in the realm once more.
Lots more to add when time (and less interrupting tasks!) allows for some clearer thinking...I am having thoughts that I'd like to contradict myself and we can't have that!
"I am the Catalyst, and I came to change all things. Prophets become warriors, dragons hunt as wolves."