Jun-11-2011, 01:54 PM (UTC)
(This post was last modified: Jun-11-2011, 01:56 PM (UTC) by ElminsterX2.)
Hey this is my first post, I'm a long time reader of the books and a big fan.
This discussion has intrigued me. I've long wondered what exactly happened to the Elderlings and Dragons, and your ideas have helped me flesh out my own a bit.
We all know that there was some sort of natural disaster that happened. The buried cities, the one Elderling city that Fitz visited with a giant crack cleaved down the middle, the serpents being forever lost, and the memories of Tintaglia all point to this. But I also agree with Redchild that there should have been some other survivors besides Icefyre due to dragons being able to fly and Elderlings being able to use skill pillars.
I also believe that there had to be some sort of other factor here, but I'm not sure if it was all just internal strife from the humans that lived on the outskirts of Elderling cities. I think it more likely that some outside force of humans (perhaps an ancestor of Chalced) deliberately waged war on the cities. Perhaps directly following the natural disaster when they were beaten and broken. There may have also been some help from the humans living in those cities who had felt slighted at being passed over for Elderlingdom. Perhaps they betrayed the Elderlings and opened the gates for the offenders.
The only problem I see with this is that it is clear in the books that Dragons keep mostly to themselves so they wouldn't all just congregate in one place like the Elderling cities. They may however have been drawn to protect their Elderling allies in a time of war.
How some dingy humans could take out a horde of Dragons I do not know, but I'm sure there was trickery and deceit involved. The only being in the books alive right now that would know the whole story is Icefyre.
This discussion has intrigued me. I've long wondered what exactly happened to the Elderlings and Dragons, and your ideas have helped me flesh out my own a bit.
We all know that there was some sort of natural disaster that happened. The buried cities, the one Elderling city that Fitz visited with a giant crack cleaved down the middle, the serpents being forever lost, and the memories of Tintaglia all point to this. But I also agree with Redchild that there should have been some other survivors besides Icefyre due to dragons being able to fly and Elderlings being able to use skill pillars.
I also believe that there had to be some sort of other factor here, but I'm not sure if it was all just internal strife from the humans that lived on the outskirts of Elderling cities. I think it more likely that some outside force of humans (perhaps an ancestor of Chalced) deliberately waged war on the cities. Perhaps directly following the natural disaster when they were beaten and broken. There may have also been some help from the humans living in those cities who had felt slighted at being passed over for Elderlingdom. Perhaps they betrayed the Elderlings and opened the gates for the offenders.
The only problem I see with this is that it is clear in the books that Dragons keep mostly to themselves so they wouldn't all just congregate in one place like the Elderling cities. They may however have been drawn to protect their Elderling allies in a time of war.
How some dingy humans could take out a horde of Dragons I do not know, but I'm sure there was trickery and deceit involved. The only being in the books alive right now that would know the whole story is Icefyre.
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