Aug-14-2011, 09:07 PM (UTC)
A daughter, `thul?
I've heard of the Lyanna+Raeghar theory as well. It makes sense internally, from what information is given by the books up to now. Though George seems to like throwing red herrings everywhere.
I don't know if Daenarys' claim would be considered false, as Jon was born out of wedlock. As I understand it, it's the legitimate children who have the strongest claim, followed by bastards (who are acknowledged, at least,) followed by the king's siblings. Unless Dany and Aegon are dead, then Jon Targaryen might make a claim, should he learn of his parentage and should he even have the ambition.
But as is evident, even if you have a 100% legal, ironclad claim for the throne, doesn't mean you'll get it; not without a long, hard fight.
I think there are also theories of the Lannister siblings being Targaryen bastards as well, with Aerys as the sire; though I don't think the evidence is strong enough to support that theory. Cersei and Jaime are in an incestuous relationship and Cersei seems to have similar symptoms of mental disorder that runs in the Targaryen bloodline. But just because the Targaryens are known for incest and neurosis, doesn't mean that everyone who is incestuous and neurotic is a Targaryen. The case for Tyrion is even weaker, simply because he was born with physical deficiencies, mismatched eyes, and a different personality from his immediate family. Tywin did not consider him as his son, though that could just be out of shame that his legitimate son was born a dwarf and Jaime was a bastard.
Of course you could still say the Targaryen's aren't really the rightful rulers of Westeros, either, if you go far back enough in history. Which is why Bran's POVs suddenly got a lot more interesting
I've heard of the Lyanna+Raeghar theory as well. It makes sense internally, from what information is given by the books up to now. Though George seems to like throwing red herrings everywhere.
I don't know if Daenarys' claim would be considered false, as Jon was born out of wedlock. As I understand it, it's the legitimate children who have the strongest claim, followed by bastards (who are acknowledged, at least,) followed by the king's siblings. Unless Dany and Aegon are dead, then Jon Targaryen might make a claim, should he learn of his parentage and should he even have the ambition.
But as is evident, even if you have a 100% legal, ironclad claim for the throne, doesn't mean you'll get it; not without a long, hard fight.
I think there are also theories of the Lannister siblings being Targaryen bastards as well, with Aerys as the sire; though I don't think the evidence is strong enough to support that theory. Cersei and Jaime are in an incestuous relationship and Cersei seems to have similar symptoms of mental disorder that runs in the Targaryen bloodline. But just because the Targaryens are known for incest and neurosis, doesn't mean that everyone who is incestuous and neurotic is a Targaryen. The case for Tyrion is even weaker, simply because he was born with physical deficiencies, mismatched eyes, and a different personality from his immediate family. Tywin did not consider him as his son, though that could just be out of shame that his legitimate son was born a dwarf and Jaime was a bastard.
Of course you could still say the Targaryen's aren't really the rightful rulers of Westeros, either, if you go far back enough in history. Which is why Bran's POVs suddenly got a lot more interesting