Apr-13-2010, 08:48 AM (UTC)
Interesting thoughts Chrischa.
Re the forging issue. Although I'm not sure I have it all worked out, I do agree that it seems the intention of the person is important. It seems like you can choose what you are putting into the stone in some circumstances. Those circumstances when you cannot choose seem to be people who are 'forced' to do it. From memory, we don't actually get to 'see' how this occurs, except when the Pale Woman forces it upon the Fool. However, I am curious as to whether he would have had some control over what he put into the stone dragon at that time, as he had previous experience with this type of thing. I'm assuming the people we see 'Forged' - like in the previous trilogy - didn't know what was happening and had no way of controlling it.
The other thing I wonder about is whether the Fool got back whatever he DID put into the dragon then, as I think he was dead when that dragon was 'killed' (and all the other Forged people got their emotions back).
I also wonder whether the Fool put anything of his own pain into Girl on a Dragon in FF, despite Fitz warning him not to.
Poor old Girl on a Dragon!!!! They don't seem to think anything of putting all their crap there!
I'm still not 100% sure why Forged people in the first trilogy go so beserk. I thought it meant that the emotion attached to memories is removed. I don't quite make the connection to why you'd become quite so barbaric without that. I think something like the Vulcans in Star Trek - ok it's not the same thing, but they are nowhere near going beserk, quite the opposite.
The thing that annoyed me most about Fitz after he gets his emotions back from GOAD is that he then seems to forget all that has occurred in the whole second trilogy. I understand that we are supposed to think he is sort of overwhelmed by the immediacy of the 'new' emotions (although this seems to apply only to his love for Molly, not so much all that pain he put in there both re betrayal and physical torture!) It made me sick to think this was implying all those events of the second trilogy somehow had little meaning for him (because he was 'part forged')?? Is this what it meant to imply?
Re the forging issue. Although I'm not sure I have it all worked out, I do agree that it seems the intention of the person is important. It seems like you can choose what you are putting into the stone in some circumstances. Those circumstances when you cannot choose seem to be people who are 'forced' to do it. From memory, we don't actually get to 'see' how this occurs, except when the Pale Woman forces it upon the Fool. However, I am curious as to whether he would have had some control over what he put into the stone dragon at that time, as he had previous experience with this type of thing. I'm assuming the people we see 'Forged' - like in the previous trilogy - didn't know what was happening and had no way of controlling it.
The other thing I wonder about is whether the Fool got back whatever he DID put into the dragon then, as I think he was dead when that dragon was 'killed' (and all the other Forged people got their emotions back).
I also wonder whether the Fool put anything of his own pain into Girl on a Dragon in FF, despite Fitz warning him not to.
Poor old Girl on a Dragon!!!! They don't seem to think anything of putting all their crap there!
I'm still not 100% sure why Forged people in the first trilogy go so beserk. I thought it meant that the emotion attached to memories is removed. I don't quite make the connection to why you'd become quite so barbaric without that. I think something like the Vulcans in Star Trek - ok it's not the same thing, but they are nowhere near going beserk, quite the opposite.
The thing that annoyed me most about Fitz after he gets his emotions back from GOAD is that he then seems to forget all that has occurred in the whole second trilogy. I understand that we are supposed to think he is sort of overwhelmed by the immediacy of the 'new' emotions (although this seems to apply only to his love for Molly, not so much all that pain he put in there both re betrayal and physical torture!) It made me sick to think this was implying all those events of the second trilogy somehow had little meaning for him (because he was 'part forged')?? Is this what it meant to imply?