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Offline Valarya
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#121
Dec-21-2011, 11:01 PM (UTC)
(Dec-21-2011, 10:04 PM (UTC))thul Wrote: so in other words... you don't like dragons.
They're many-legged, scaled & winged.


Hahahahaha!!! Clapping

Bwahaha. Big Grin HAH HA HAAAAAAAAAA haha.

Toohot

Oh hahaha. Man. 'thul beings that was TOO good.



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Offline fool-ish
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#122
Dec-22-2011, 12:29 AM (UTC)
Blushing Well, 'tis true, I wouldn't want to encounter a dragon! Though, I wouldn't say they were many-legged, I'd use that term for anything with more than four legs! With regards to wings, dragons wouldn't ever get caught in my hair, because they're too big (generally!) Unlike moths and bats, for instance (shudders!) The scales, I have absolutely no excuse for P

I do like reading about dragons though and I'd like to believe that redeems me somewhat! Surrender But of course, as 'thul beings like a good argument, there'll be no redemption for me whatsoever! Wink


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Offline 'thul
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#123
Dec-22-2011, 01:01 AM (UTC)
Generally, "many" is to 'thul's experience not more than four. It is counted "one, two, many" so it is 3+, or sometimes 4 or more.

Of course, some common dragons are two-legged, with two arms and two wings, others have two legs and two wings, and the last of the most common varieties is the one with four legs and two wings.

There are a few rare ones without wings or with no legs, but they're rare. Some of those have wings and arms (but not legs).
The spiders (that exist outside fantasy) that you should really fear are not the big ones like tarantulas, as they are generally mostly harmless... its the small ones. Black widow spiders are fairly small, yet deadly.

Same can be said for scorpions. Big Claws = safe, small claws = dangerous. The big-clawed ones need such claws to hold prey while venom spreads. Small-clawed ones have such strong venom that they do not really need claws to hold prey at all.


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when 'thul write in all italics, it is the lord of the three realms within 'thul speaking. A fairly egoistical, but also somewhat simple-minded dragon. Do not take such posts at face value.
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Offline finella
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#124
Dec-22-2011, 12:11 PM (UTC)
(Dec-21-2011, 11:46 AM (UTC))thul Wrote: If you did not figure it out earlier, Yes, large part of the arguing back is mostly for the fun of it.

Big GrinFlowers Ups, sorryI just should have read the whole thread, instead of just looking at the last page and thinking, what sort of strange views some people have and that I have to say something to it. I should have just kept my mouth shut Dodgy.



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Offline 'thul
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#125
Dec-22-2011, 12:40 PM (UTC)
A good argument (so long as it remains good-natured and people do not get truly angry) is always a good thing.


Note:
when 'thul write in all italics, it is the lord of the three realms within 'thul speaking. A fairly egoistical, but also somewhat simple-minded dragon. Do not take such posts at face value.
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"Its for charity. Widows and orphans. We need more of them."
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Offline finella
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#126
Dec-22-2011, 01:13 PM (UTC)
(Dec-22-2011, 12:40 PM (UTC))thul Wrote: A good argument (so long as it remains good-natured and people do not get truly angry) is always a good thing.

SlurpSlurp Thanks, Thul!


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Offline FoolishGirl
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#127
Dec-22-2011, 03:38 PM (UTC)
(Dec-22-2011, 01:01 AM (UTC))thul Wrote: Of course, some common dragons are two-legged, with two arms and two wings, others have two legs and two wings, and the last of the most common varieties is the one with four legs and two wings...There are a few rare ones without wings or with no legs, but they're rare. Some of those have wings and arms (but not legs).

Now, isn't this a point of contention amongst fantasy readers? I recall from an AGOT board that some fervently believe that a dragon should never have front legs, as their wings would have evolved from their front limbs (like bats). Tintaglia and Icefyre have 4 legs plus wings, I believe. I don't recall whether the dragons in DK are all 4-legged...


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Offline Valarya
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#128
Dec-22-2011, 03:54 PM (UTC)
(Dec-22-2011, 03:38 PM (UTC))FoolishGirl Wrote: I don't recall whether the dragons in DK are all 4-legged...

They are, I believe. Several times there's mention of of a Dragon pinning something down with its front feet as it tears at the meat with it's teeth. I think it makes more sense for Hobb's dragons to have 4 feet since they form from Serpents. I don't think of them as fat squat dragons, but long serpent-like dragons. With such a huge body, you'd need to have 4 feet, yes?

At least I like to think so, haha. Proud



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Offline 'thul
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#129
Dec-22-2011, 04:35 PM (UTC)
RotE dragons are hexapedal, yes. Not sure if the front legs have opposable claws, but there's certainly four legs.

The most common dragon variety elsewhere is also hexapedal. Quadrupedal dragons are actually fairly rare, though they fit better into earthly mammal/reptilian standards.



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when 'thul write in all italics, it is the lord of the three realms within 'thul speaking. A fairly egoistical, but also somewhat simple-minded dragon. Do not take such posts at face value.
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"Its for charity. Widows and orphans. We need more of them."
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Offline FoolishGirl
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#130
Dec-22-2011, 04:41 PM (UTC) (This post was last modified: Dec-22-2011, 04:48 PM (UTC) by FoolishGirl.)
(Dec-22-2011, 03:54 PM (UTC))Valarya Wrote: I think it makes more sense for Hobb's dragons to have 4 feet since they form from Serpents. I don't think of them as fat squat dragons, but long serpent-like dragons. With such a huge body, you'd need to have 4 feet, yes?

I agree. A two-legged dragon would seem to have a disadvantage with regard to feeding and getting around on the ground. Trying to think back to other dragons in other authors' books, and I can't recall any that I knew for sure were only two-legged. That's why I was surprised to see the comment about A Game of Thrones, that the dragons on the show were two-legged, and the poster seemed to imply this was the "correct" anatomy.
(Dec-22-2011, 04:35 PM (UTC))thul Wrote: RotE dragons are hexapedal, yes. Not sure if the front legs have opposable claws, but there's certainly four legs...The most common dragon variety elsewhere is also hexapedal. Quadrupedal dragons are actually fairly rare, though they fit better into earthly mammal/reptilian standards.
Having 2 legs vs 4 would greatly change the physical nature of the dragons, I would think. I imagine that, while on the ground, they would need to sit on their haunches to maintain their balance, and would therefore be more bird-like than lizard-like.



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