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A song of Ice and fire discussion (spoilers incl A Dance with Dragons)
Offline fool-ish
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#201
Feb-18-2012, 09:41 PM (UTC)
Help please! What's the difference between a 'wight' and an 'other'?? Is there a difference between the two? I assumed they were one and the same until someone said an 'other' or a 'wight.'


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Offline 'thul
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#202
Feb-18-2012, 10:14 PM (UTC)
Not sure, but could it be that wights are the unburned dead claimed by the others (white walkers)?


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Offline fool-ish
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#203
Feb-18-2012, 10:29 PM (UTC)
Ah yes, possibly that is so. Hopefully, it won't matter in the grand scheme of things. At least they have one thing in common..they're cold!


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Offline 'thul
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#204
Feb-18-2012, 11:10 PM (UTC)
That is true.

Oh, and theory verified... 'thul checked the wiki of ice and fire...

Quote:Wights are dead men or creatures raised up by the Others, seemingly when touched by the cold that accompanies them.[3]


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Offline fool-ish
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#205
Feb-18-2012, 11:46 PM (UTC)
Ah, ok. Something akin to being 'turned' by a vampire, only colder! Wights are perhaps trainee others? My next question would be how the Others came to be? As far as I'm aware GRRM hasn't explained this thus far and mayhap he never will, but I'd surely like to know.


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Offline 'thul
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#206
Feb-18-2012, 11:54 PM (UTC)
A bit like that, but more like the semi-typical zombie, only with at least some minds left. Vampires are, for the most part, portrayed as having fairly functional higher brain functions, whereas the wights are not portrayed as having that in beyond using whatever knowledge the body might have had as intel.


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Offline fool-ish
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#207
Feb-19-2012, 12:05 AM (UTC)
Yeah, now I come to think of it, they are more zombie-like. I wonder if it was some sort of 'infection' then, like in many zombie films? Though, it has to have something to do with the unforgiving cold, I would think.


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Offline 'thul
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#208
Feb-19-2012, 12:20 AM (UTC) (This post was last modified: Feb-19-2012, 12:21 AM (UTC) by 'thul.)
not likely to be infection. Probably more related to magic. After all, Wildfire is somewhat magic-based, and it worked far better after Daenarys' dragons hatched, despite there being no tangible connection across such great distance...
These beings theorize that Corpses that remain unburned within certain distance of the white walkers get utilized by them. Hence why the free folk burn their dead.
Thus, the infection is not some contagion, but magic.


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"Its for charity. Widows and orphans. We need more of them."
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#209
Feb-19-2012, 12:40 AM (UTC)
I was loathe to mention magic as it's so looked down upon in this particular world. GRRM needs to tell us before he wraps the story up for good!


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#210
Feb-19-2012, 12:50 AM (UTC)
Magic might be looked down upon, but that doesn't mean it does not wish to exist...


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