A song of Ice and fire discussion (spoilers incl A Dance with Dragons)

[Valarya]

That's exactly why I said what I said, 'thul.

(more spoilers) Because:

I don't think she'll have the face of Arya at all. Her wolf will recognize her no matter her face.. and then someone else might recognize her through the wolf (Ghost to Nymeria, or Shaggydog to Nymeria).

I can't wait.

['thul]

Spoiler

There's no reason for her not to have her own face... But she'll probably just have it as one of many.

[fool-ish]

Harsh, Mr. Martin, harsh! Nearing the end now..

[Valarya]

Harsh, Mr. Martin, harsh! Nearing the end now..

I bet I know what chapter you just got to.

[finella]

I love the books and read them all in german. Having no difficulties at all with RH's books, do you think, I can also read the original of A Song of Ice and Fire? I have great respect for the complex story and the lots of different important headliners and so far didn't have the courage to so so. But I would very much like to read it in english.

['thul]

If you have no trouble understanding any of the posts here, then you should have no trouble reading ASOIAF in english.

[fool-ish]

Yep, Valarya, I suspect we may be singing from the same hymn sheet on that one! I'm still all of a-fluster!

And as for the ending, well, cliff hanger is an understatement! How long do we have to wait for the next installment?!

[Valarya]

Yep, Valarya, I suspect we may be singing from the same hymn sheet on that one! I'm still all of a-fluster!

And as for the ending, well, cliff hanger is an understatement! How long do we have to wait for the next installment?!

With GRRM, there's no telling how long we'll have to wait.

Altho, to be fair, the reason book 5 took so long is because of the "Mereneese Knot," so Martin called it. He couldn't figure out how to advance Dany's story (which I think is quite obvious in the whole book) so he did a lot of re-writing.

Also, as of the beginning of Book 5, he still wasn't sure how the story would end - completely. Now, he knows. AND he has an HBO show creeping up on him, lol. I suspect it won't be any longer than 3 years, at the most.

Still:

In regards to the end of the book:

WARNING! ADWD ending spoilers!

- When Jon was stabbed I actually threw the book across the room and paced my living room for 10 minutes bawling, saying "No, no, no, no, no..." over and over. I couldn't believe he did it.. and then I could. When I thought about it a bit more I realized there's no way Jon can die. This is MARTIN we're talking about here. Jon will probably go in to Ghost, and Melisandre will give him the kiss of life, and he will be whole again. Makes me wonder the implications that will have, though. Since he "died" does that mean his Oath no longer applies?
Since there was a Red Star (on one of the Knight's clothing), Salt (from his brothers' tears as they stabbed him) and Smoke (from his wound).. he might even be reborn as Azor Ahai.

- The entire book you wait for Tyrion and Dany to meet and the chapter where they're FINALLY in the same spot @ the same time... what happens? Drogon shows up and freaking carries Dany away! Hahaha! That was a giant "YES!!!!!!!!!!!" moment.
Dany running in to Khal Drogo's old buddy-from-the-Khalasar at the end there, also helps fulfill the prophecy that "In order to go forward, you must go back." Pretty neat!

['thul]

Now that theory on jon was a new one to these beings... and it rings nicely...

[Valarya]

Now that theory on jon was a new one to these beings... and it rings nicely...

Really? I thought we had discussed that one before.

I love the fact you used the phrase "it rings nicely." I have explained to my friends, several times, that it's how I know certain theories are just... right. Lol

Like R+L=J. It just rings true!!

Mid-way ADWD Spoilers

For 6+ years I've theorized that the Three-Eyed-Crow was Bloodraven because it just rang true to me. Turns out that was right!!!

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::: double post :::

ALSO, 'thul beings...

more ADWD spoilers about Jon-

In regards to the whole possible Jon = Azor Ahai theory, it fits even more nicely when you think about the fact Rhaegar needed the Prince Who was Promised. The son whose Song is the Song of Ice and Fire! If Jon is truly Rhaegar's and Lyanna's son.. and Azor Ahai.. that all comes true!!

One can only hope. Haha